29 April 2013
28 April 2013
27 April 2013
Thoughts on memorising WorksOfArchimedes, translated byThomasLHeath.
1. Obtain twobooks from thesame publisher.
2. Separate each page from the book.
3. Cut the margin on everypage.
4. Cover the figures drawn byArchimedes.
5. Paste the pages on blanknotebook.
6. Understand the book in themostsuperficial sense of the word, and Determine the number of buildings needed.
7. Unknown.
Will transcribe TheRoom2003 and RikiOh1991.
2. Separate each page from the book.
3. Cut the margin on everypage.
4. Cover the figures drawn byArchimedes.
5. Paste the pages on blanknotebook.
6. Understand the book in themostsuperficial sense of the word, and Determine the number of buildings needed.
7. Unknown.
Will transcribe TheRoom2003 and RikiOh1991.
25 April 2013
IMDb. Forum. RikiOh.TheStoryOfRicky1991.
The Riki-Oh Drinking Game |
by widowmaker10 (Wed Mar 1 2006 17:24:14) |
|
My friends and I pioneered the creation of the Riki-Oh drinking game; the rules are that you watch the movie with both English dubs and the English subtitles take a drink whenever the following happens:
1. The dubs and subtitles match (or when they don't match, for the suicidal).
2. Ricky punches something.
3. The assistant warden removes his eye.
4. Someone yells "Bastard!".
5. A gravestone is destroyed (*this one can be dangerous)
In addition, one has to finish their drink whenever
1. Ricky has a freak-out (screaming and whatnot).
2. Women jump off of buildings and land at impossible angles.
3. Any animal (like, say, a dog) gets it's sh*t ruined.
We're always looking for new rules, any ideas?
Interview. Soderbergh. InterviewMagazine. DaviTTSigerson. 27nov2008.
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Steven Soderbergh has completed a twopart
spanishlanguageepic about the Marxist revolutionary and ["]alltime["]["]bestselling["]["]Tshirt["] personality,
CheGuevara, starring Benicio-delToro in the title role. The first part, TheArgentine,
depicts Guevara's struggle for victory in-theCubanRevolution; the second,
Guerilla, hacks through the brush of his fatal last effort inBolivia. Together,
they are a peculiar project and typical ofSoderbergh, who makes a habit of
swerving-from his breakthrough Sex,LiesAndVideotape1989 to theOcean'sMovies,
from ErinBrockovich2000 and Traffic2000 to experiments like Bubble2005 and
TheGirlfriendExperience2009. Soderbergh has
withstood proclamations of weirdness (Schizopolis1996), formalism
(TheGoodGerman2006), and genius (SexLies1989, the-delTorosections ofTraffic2000;
and, in my opinion, the first of Che2008). Now, he's taking heat for canonising
a killer [The opinion of the writer revealed] and ideologue whose life raises
many more questions than these movies care to address: The films barely mention
the period when Guevara helped govern postrevolutionaryCuba and supervised
politicalexecutions, they also omit exploration ofGuevara's reasons for
pursuing a failed and deadly experiment in the jungles ofBolivia. But they do
portray a complicated figure in modernHistory without sentimentality or special
pleading, and allow us to make our own judgments. In an earlymorning
conversation at his NYCoffice, I asked Soderbergh how he, a man who, like
Guevara, is given to intense reflection and meticulous planning, gets such
disparate results.
[Answer/Question]
1.
Were these CheGuevarafilms fun
to make?/How could they be? [No.]
2.
I don't know. Because you
really like foliage? [The fuck does this mean? The sentence possibly means the questioner already expected
an answer, which is a sign of fuckface.] There's a lot of that./I enjoyed being
out there in the jungle. I think it's part of your job as a filmmaker to just
take a camera and go somewhere. So I did enjoy being out in the elements like
that. And I can understand how CheGuevara did, too. There was that guy who Che
fought with in the Congo who said, "Che would rather face a bullet than Reality."
I think that is one of the more accurate statements I've heard about him. One
of the things that drew me toChe was that I wanted to make a movie that brought
things down to his ability to sustain for such a long period of time the kind
of outrage that we all feel occasionally. Being able to sustain that kind of
outrage to the point of dying for an idea, in support of a group of people
you've never met, is unusual. I find it sort of unfathomable in a way. And to
do that twice, to basically construct a life for yourself only to walk away
from it twice is also unusual to me. Che doesn't work the way a normal movie
character works. He has no ["]arc["].
[Fuck arc whatever the fuck it is.] He's a ["]straight line["], and
the tension comes from the external pressures that are trying to bend him in
one direction or another, and how he deals with those. So it's kind of an inversion
of the traditional movieprotagonist. And that, again, was interesting to me.
But I was really just hoping we could give the audience a sense of what it was
really like to be aroundChe. That's what it comes down to, What it was like to
hang out with somebody who is that committed and that uncompromising. My
impression, from talking to people who were around him, was that he was kind of
a pain in the ass.
3.
Just to put my feelings on the
table: I love the first movie, and I am fairlybaffled by the second one./Really?
That's the opposite of most people.
4.
Did you have any films or
models that were sort of talismans or inspirations for making these movies?/Well,
normally, when I'm making a movie, I watch a whole group of films that I feel
are in the same ["]ballpark["], and I'll watch them repeatedly, just to see how other filmmakers
have solved certain problems. I didn't do that as much here because the
problems that we were facing didn't really have to do with how I was going to
shoot the film. They had to do with the script and the shape of the movie and
the amount of time I had available to shoot on a given day. And those are not
things that watching another film can really help you with.
5.
But do you think that ["]getting out of your head["] and into
the jungle helped the work?/Absolutely. At a certain point, I definitely became
impatient. I mean, we'd been dry-humping this project for seven years. So I
wanted to get out there and get naked. It's not really in my nature, when it
comes to work, to agonize over decisions in retrospect. I'm a big believer in
working quickly, because I think it's harder-though not impossible-to be
pretentious when you're moving really fast.
6.
At times, you've been accused
of being too much of a formalist, but what you seem to revere is speed and
instinct./The reason my career took such a leftturn at a certain point was
because I realized I was in danger of becoming a formalist. But that wasn't the
best representation of me, even as a person. It's easy to fall into that
because it's a veryisolated position to occupy and it's easy to keep other
elements, people and ideas, at a distance. So after directing TheUnderneath1995,
which was an unhappy experience for me creatively because I felt going in that
the film wasn't going to work, I realized, I've got to tear this thing down and
start over again. I need to make a ["]secondfirstmovie["] that represents this other side of me that's been ["]chloroformed["]. And
from that point forward, from Schizopolis1996 on, I made a veryconscious
decision to get back to working the way I used to. The willingness to improvise
had been eliminated, but I think you reach the best of all possible worlds when
you've done enough homework to have the skills and knowledge of a formalist,
and then you are forced to work really fast.
7.
What I like about the first Che
movie is that it's a procedural, it's a work movie, like, Oh, so that's how eightyguys
get off a leaky boat, go into the mountains, and change the world. [No one
gives a fuck what you like.] But you said that people tend to prefer the second
one to the first. [I don't give a fuck.] Why do you think that is?/I don't
know. Maybe the linearity of it. There are certainly fewer moving parts to
thesecondfilm. I think, for a lot of people, thesecondfilm is more emotional, at
the end at least, and so it's more satisfying. That's just the general sense
we've gotten when we've screened the films: People like the first film, but
they really like the second one.
8.
In the second film, once we've
left civilization we never return to it./No. And it's kind of a slowmotion
AndThenThereWereNone1945.
9.
There was a point where I was
rooting for a landmine, I have to tell you./Yeah?
10. Yeah, because with the second film, you know you're not going home
until the last guy dies. Why did Che keep fighting inBolivia when he must have
realized it wasn't working? [Soderbergh is not a historian or a philosopher.
Fucking moron.]/Well, when you read Che's writing
abouttheCongo, it's very selfcritical, he sort of ["]lays out["] [the reason] why
the attempt to start a revolution there didn't work.
There are some of the same elements involved as there were with what happened
inBolivia. You also have to remember that it was whileChe was inCongo that
FidelCastro read hisfarewellletter. This was a guy who couldn't go anywhere, there
was no home to go to. I really feel like [that] he believed the
choice was either to win or to die. He couldn't go toArgentina obviously. He
couldn't go toCuba, it would have been too embarrassing because he'd renounced
hiscitizenship and said he was never coming back. TheCIA had labeled him
themostdangerous man alive. I think part of him must have known that it was
going to come to what it did. I mean, in having these conversations with people
who don't likeChe, I find myself having to explain one aspect of making any
film that I think isn't necessarily clear to people. They
say, You've made him look heroic. You've presented him in a certain way. [I
discard them completely.] I have to do that if I am making a film about
his experience. I am trying to recreate his experience, so, ["]by definition["], I am
adopting his attitude. In essence, I am adopting the attitude of anybody I
portray onscreen whether they're viewed as being a good character or a bad
character. I can't have one foot in and one foot out. Che is just one of those
figures who forces people to think about how they feel about certain lifeissues.
The way that they ["]bounce off of
him["] says as much about them as it does
about him.
11. Well, I think what you did is make the movie of the T-shirt. [The
fuck does this mean?]/Yeah exclamationpoint.
12. But I don't entirely buy the stuff about having to make a movie from
the character's view.There are other viewpoints. You're the one selecting the material-you're
presenting yourChe. And you ["]dig["] the guy./Yeah, but let's be clear: Politically, I think that MarxistLeninism
[LeninistMarxism] doesn't work. I understand why Che was so drawn to it because
it does superficially seem to address some core socialissues that he cared
about. But I think that Che believed that you can change people and that you
can somehow eliminate this aspect of them that results in things like Imperialism
and hegemony. I don't believe that. I feel that we are hardwired to be competitive
and to compare ourselves to other people and that what you have to do is create
a system in which that energy is channeled in a direction where it does the
least amount of damage. [Typical statement of liberalelitist.] But you are never, ever going to be able to eliminate
that element from people in any significant way. You just can't. The result
would be robots. Even if you could pull that off, would the cure be worth the
medicine?
13. Going back to the paper of record, InterviewMagazine./I hope this is
as good as my interview withDangerMouse[in-aug2008].
14. Well, I'm going to quote from your interview withDangerMouse, where
you said the following: "I recently decided that I'm not an originator.
I'm a synthesist." Is that what you really believe?/Yeah, totally.
15. Why?/Because it's true at least by my standards. If I can't watch a
film like Persona1966 and realize, Oh, IngmarBergman is an originator and I'm a
synthesist, then I don't know what I'm doing. Part of knowing what you're doing
is understanding, Okay, I can't ["]drive
the lane["] [?]. But I can ["]shoot from the outside["]. And
that doesn't mean you shouldn't try to improve your abilities, but there are
certain things pause. I mean, I can't jump onehundredmeterhighhurdles. No
amount of training is going to solve that.
16. Well, not to get bogged down in the finer points of the definition,
but Sex, Lies, and Videotape felt like a really original movie when it came
out./I don't think it is one. I think it's my regurgitation of
CarnalKnowledge1971.
17. You could say that BobDylan owes a lot toWoodyGuthrie, so Dylan is
not an originator. But you'd be wrong./Dylan would be
the first to admit he was standing on somebody else's shoulders. But he ["]pushed
the ball["] so far down the field. The
point is that he did something that I don't think the people on whose shoulders
he stood could ever have imagined. That's why he's an originator. I
don't think I've done anything that anybody who's influenced me would look at
and say, Oh, my God, I never imagined somebody would make that. I'm talking
about stuff that really just feels new. I mean, JeanLucGodard talks about
seeingHiroshimaMonAmour1959, and going, "I
literally didn't think that was possible. I didn't think you could do what he
just did." It feels like there was this whole group of filmmakers who
really did push the ball forward. And it's frustrating trying to figure out how
to do that. You start running into this issue of what people will accept. Film
is a very public art form. Is there a point at which you just become too
abstract and oblique? Watching a movie inherently brings out in people a
certain set of narrative demands that you can push to a certain point but you
can't break or they'll just get angry. And that's frustrating to me because
I've always had this sense that there's a new["]Language["] and a new["]Grammar["] that we haven't
found yet.
18. Talk to me for a moment about the period afterSchizopolis, a film
that felt very much like someone pushing theresetbutton./That was a fertile
period. I felt like, at least conceptually, I'd gotten myself out of ["]funk["]. I had a reallygood
experience onOutOfSight1998. And I had a lot of energy. I had a lot of ideas
about narrative that I didn't get to explore, and I was trying to think of ways
to explore them. Then with TheLimey1999. What was great aboutTheLimey was that
the time it took from the moment of meeting to discuss the movie to me delivering
the finished film was ninemonths. The good news was, That fed in me a desire to
then do something very["]normal["], and it was during that period of makingTheLimey that I committed
to doingErinBrockovich, which was a project I had turned down [rejected]
duringOutOfSight. And then I went right into Traffic2000 and Ocean'sEleven2001,
which was a good ["]run["]. Then I went through a run of doing stuff that was not as well liked,
but for me, really important, FullFrontal2002, Solaris2002, theKStreet2003, Ocean'sTwelve2004,
Eros2004, Bubble2006, TheGoodGerman2008. The reason that I can jump out of bed
every morning and stay happy is that, even if you take the list of movies that
people don't like, that didn't work either critically or commercially or
whatever, even if you just showed me that list, I'd go [say], That's not
a bad list.
19. Which brings us to TheGirlfriendExperience, the Bubblestyle callgirlmovie
you're starting to shoot./It's about control. I had someone the other day, a
woman journalist, say, Oh, God, here we go, a guy making a prostitutemovie.
Why are men so interested in this subject?" And I said, "Well, I can
understand why that would be your initial reaction, but I'm making a movie
about someone who feels as though she is in absolute control of the way that
her life works and, over the course of aweek, comes to realize that's not
true." It's a subject I've been totally interested in since the beginning
of my career. This is just a milieu that I've never explored before.
20. Have you cast it?/Yeah. SashaGrey is playing the girl. And the rest
are all nonprofessionals.
21. But Sasha Grey is a pornstar, not a callgirl. But she's a Godardfan.
[Godard made one movie about prostitution. It is irrelevant. Fucking DumbAss.]/When
we first met, and I told her, "I want you to [watch] look at this
Godard film, VivreSaVie1962 she
said, Oh, I've seen that. Yeah, that's a reallygreat movie. She has a lot of
the qualities that I want this person to have, and, when I described the
working process onBubble and how that ["]played
out["], she said, I think I'd be very
comfortable doing that. I said, Look, we're going to
have scenes. There are sort of topics to each scene, and I'm gonna give you ["]bulletpoints["] that I want to
have addressed here, but how you address them is totally up to you.
[RobertAltman] I wanted to give each character as much information as they
needed to get through each scene, but not the same information that I'm giving
the other characters. The key is to just stay yourself throughout.[RobertAltman] She's attractive, but not that sort of unreal beauty that pulls you
away. She still looks like somebody who lives in your neighborhood. And it'll be
really fun to make a movie inNYC and shootManhattan even though it's been done
a lot. But I haven't gotten to do it.
22. Finally, I have a craftquestion for you. Having seen the different
versions of the Chemovies and watched them evolve, it seems to me such a
difficult thing to know what people know. Do you think that's true?/Well, it's
the thing that you spend your whole life trying to figure out. How does an
audience receive information? How much can they take? When can you play off of
their expectations? When do you have to fulfill their expectations? It can be
really fascinating, and it can be really frustrating. I mean, there are times
when you just can't believe that something is not coming across the way that
you think it is, you have those situations where somebody says, Oh, I had no
idea that was his brother. And you go, How could you not? They said, Brother.
23. I ask because, writing Fiction, you never get to be in the reader's
head, reading it./Oh, that's really hard. Well, who do you rely on in that
case?
24. You're fucked./Really.
25. Yeah, you just do it./You may talk to people who say they've figured
it out, and maybe they have, but I don't see any evidence of that. The evidence
around me is that we are all starting over every time we make a movie.
Interview. Ellroy. ParisReviewTheMagazine.fall2009. NatanielRich.
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